#33: Breast Implants After Pregnancy With Lauryn Bosstick

This week Dr. Barrett speaks with Lauryn Bossick of the Skinny Confidential on the first episode of season 2 of the Natural Plastic Surgeon Podcast! Dr. Barrett asks Lauryn all about her life before and after surgery. Lauryn shares her hacks for recovery, her full experience at Barrett Plastic Surgery, as well as her new product roll out! Between Lauryn’s hacks and Dr. Barrett's own strategies, this episode delivers tons of natural options and ideas so don’t miss it!

On this episode of The Natural Plastic Surgeon, Dr. Barrett speaks with Lauryn Bosstick of the Skinny Confidential on the first episode of season 2 of the Natural Plastic Surgeon Podcast! Dr. Barrett asks Lauryn all about her life before and after surgery. Lauryn shares her hacks for recovery, her full experience at Barrett Plastic Surgery, as well as her new product rollout! Between Lauryn’s hacks and Dr. Barrett's own strategies, this episode delivers tons of natural options and ideas so don’t miss it!

Dr. Barrett (00:07):

Okay, everyone. Welcome to season two episode one of The Natural Plastic Surgeon Podcast. I have a very special guest for you guys. It is Lauryn Evarts, the skinny confidential herself, here in the office to share with her how her journey's been since we've done her surgery over what, two and a half years ago?

Lauryn Bosstick (00:23):

Yeah. It's so crazy. My are still so perky, two and a half years later, after a baby and breastfeeding.

Dr. Barrett (00:30):

That is incredible.

Lauryn Bosstick (00:31):

Thanks to you.

Breast Revision

Dr. Barrett (00:32):

Well, yes. Wait, I want to know more. So a lot's gone on, right? So there's a pandemic, you had a baby, you have all kinds of cool products coming out, and you just... you have some of these people on your show that are just the same people that I'm listening to. It's just we're like in tune on some of the latest, coolest stuff, and especially with health and wellness and recovery. But let's talk about... Let's start from the beginning, let's start from the breast surgery. So we did a breast revision back in 2018 for you. You've been very happy about that, and I want to know... I get a lot of patients that ask about breast surgery after... or pregnancy after having breast implants or breast surgery in general. Anything that you can share with the listeners about that experience and what you went through?

Lauryn Bosstick (01:19):Always Wanted A Breast Augmetnation SInce I was 18 Years Old

Yeah. I got my boobs done, or breast augmentation, when I was 18 years old. I wanted it since I was 14. I saved up every penny from working at a restaurant, and the second I graduated high school, I went and got my boobs done. It was something I always wanted to do. And then, as life went on, it was time to get them redone. You and I connected, I completely fell in love with you as a doctor and a person. I came in here and-

Saline Breast Implants were 14 Years Old

Dr. Barrett (01:46):

Well, I think let's back up. They were like 14 years old, right?

Lauryn Bosstick (01:49):

Yeah. No, they were 10 years old.

Dr. Barrett (01:52):

Okay. 10 years old. Okay.

Lauryn Bosstick (01:53):


Dr. Barrett (01:53):

So it was time-

Lauryn Bosstick (01:54):

It was time.

Dr. Barrett (01:55):

...and they were... I think they were salient, so they were kind of like the-

Lauryn Bosstick (01:59):


Dr. Barrett (01:59):

... the original iPhone.

Lauryn Bosstick (02:00):

It was like Nokia snake.

Dr. Barrett (02:04):


Lauryn Bosstick (02:04):

It was time to get them redone.

Dr. Barrett (02:05):

Got it.

Lauryn Bosstick (02:06):

Loved, my nipple size and all of that, but it just... they just sort of deflated. You could tell it was time. So we decided, I believe, to do... I had 250s, and we did, I think, 350 or 400.

Dr. Barrett (02:21):

I think you were around... They were 270 filled the 300CC's.

Lauryn Bosstick (02:21):


Dr. Barrett (02:21):

And then-

Lauryn Bosstick (02:23):

Oh my God, you know it. Okay.

Switch from saline breast implants to Gummy Bear Implants

Dr. Barrett (02:26):

And then we switched you over to silicone, and we had some pocket issues. There was some... one was doing one thing, and the other was doing another thing, and so we had to stabilize that, we did a pocket repair. We updated the profile of your implant, got you the gummy bear implants, and they turned out great.

Surgery Recovery

Lauryn Bosstick (02:43):

It turned out so great. Here's the thing that I always say about Dr. Barrett. A lot of doctors, I notice, when they do surgery, when they're done with surgery, they're done. They don't care how you feel afterwards. What I noticed about you is... Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe you injected me with lidocaine when I was asleep.

Dr. Barrett (03:02):


Lauryn Bosstick (03:03):

So the recovery was so easy. It was-

Dr. Barrett (03:03):


Lauryn Bosstick (03:06):

... so easy. Honestly, everyone's like, did it hurt? It didn't hurt, it wasn't annoying. It was just a very seamless, painless recovery, and-

Dr. Barrett (03:06):

That's awesome.

Lauryn Bosstick (03:15):

... I attribute that to you. You also do things like... Maybe this is TMI, but you you give stool samplers, because a lot of doctors, they give you the pain pill, and then you get constipated.

Dr. Barrett (03:27):

The stool softeners. Yeah. Yeah, obviously.

Lauryn Bosstick (03:31):

And it's-

Dr. Barrett (03:32):

And nausea. Yeah. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (03:33):

And the nausea. There's all these little things that come from the pain pills that you don't get treated for. So meanwhile, you're constipated, and you have all that anesthesia in you-

Dr. Barrett (03:43):


Lauryn Bosstick (03:43):

... it can't be good for you, and it does... I remember my first boob job, I actually got depressed because when you're not getting the toxins out, it's bad for you. So there's-

Dr. Barrett (03:43):


Lauryn Bosstick (03:52):

... all these little things that you did that were very unique.

Dr. Barrett (03:56):

That really is as amazing. From the time of your surgery, we've actually... So one of the things you're talking about was pre-injection with lidocaine or local anesthesia, which anesthesiologists figured out, but surgeons, they just... they don't see the research on it. You can actually minimize pain in recovery afterward by pre-injecting with numbing medicine, and it just makes a whole lot of sense. So a lot of other things that we do to minimize that because we want people to... We want to give you the ultimate experience. We want you to have good results, but we want the process to be enjoyable, too. We don't want you to be cringing that I'm going to be in a lot of pain after surgery. We want to get you back to work, get you back to your family and everything else. But, since that operation, we've actually gone light years ahead in terms of some of our recovery supplements. We're doing stuff like digestive enzymes, we have CBD now, we carry it in the office. I'm actually trying to develop my own CBD that's actually specifically targeted for healing after-

Lauryn Bosstick (03:56):

You're busy.

Dr. Barrett (04:46):

Yeah. But no, I want to have the ultimate experience. Because what are things that keep people from having surgery? It's just like-

Lauryn Bosstick (04:53):

They're scared of the after effects.

Dr. Barrett (04:55):

The after effects. Yeah. One of the things, also, is actually probiotics. A lot of people get depressed after antibiotic usage. There's study that said the incidence of depression goes up after a course of antibiotics, and it doesn't happen till about six months.

Lauryn Bosstick (05:07):

That makes sense.

Dr. Barrett (05:08):

Isn't that crazy?

Lauryn Bosstick (05:09):

That makes sense. The anesthesia's still in your system, so to up your probiotics when you're going through that makes total sense.

Dr. Barrett (05:14):

Yeah. So that's actually something... That's the latest thing that we're researching with the company, I think Molecular Biologics, to see if we can start carrying product, which I think is a super strong... there's a lot of good ones out there, but overall, they're really good. We want to have something that's focused for people that just had an antibiotic course, because unfortunately we do have to use some antibiotics for surgery, and they go through a stressful response. So we're trying to come up with that perfect cocktail of recovery supplementation that really helps our patients get back to their normal life.

Lauryn Bosstick (05:41):

That's Genius. Sign me up-

Dr. Barrett (05:42):


Lauryn Bosstick (05:43):

... for my mommy makeover that I want after-

Dr. Barrett (05:44):

Yes. All right. All right. So did you had... So you had a baby. In fact, when I was on your podcast, Roslyn was pregnant with our first child. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (05:55):

No. You-

Dr. Barrett (05:55):


Lauryn Bosstick (05:56):

... brought your first-

Dr. Barrett (05:57):

Oh, she was there? Oh.

Lauryn Bosstick (05:58):

You brought her-

Dr. Barrett (05:59):


Lauryn Bosstick (05:59):

... and she was so cute and beautiful.

Dr. Barrett (06:02):

That's right.

Lauryn Bosstick (06:02):

And then later you got pregnant. You have to listen to Dr. Barrett on that episode, you were so good.

Dr. Barrett (06:09):

Yeah. That was 2018-

Lauryn Bosstick (06:09):

Very informative.

Dr. Barrett (06:10):

... I think. So that was-

Lauryn Bosstick (06:10):

You have to come back on soon to talk about women makeovers.

Dr. Barrett (06:13):

Okay. That's that's also one of the things I do a lot of. So you now have daughter-

Lauryn Bosstick (06:19):


Dr. Barrett (06:19):

... and she's a little over one years old.

Lauryn Bosstick (06:21):

Yes. I breastfed.

Dr. Barrett (06:22):

Yes. Okay.

Lauryn Bosstick (06:23):

Everyone wants to know about that.

Dr. Barrett (06:23):

I want-

Lauryn Bosstick (06:23):


Dr. Barrett (06:24):

I know, right? That's-

Lauryn Bosstick (06:26):

The boob implants do nothing-

Dr. Barrett (06:27):


Lauryn Bosstick (06:27):

... that I experienced.

Breastfeeding After Breast Implants

Dr. Barrett (06:28):

Right. That' a really important topic. I get a lot of people ask me, what are... can I breastfeed after getting implants? I know I didn't do your first operation, I did your second. I tried to minimize the trauma's as much as possible. But yes, you can. The statistics vary based on what study you look at there's anywhere from seven to 15% reported difficulty breastfeeding. Now, if you don't have implants, it's still hard to breastfeed. It's not-

Lauryn Bosstick (06:52):

It's so hard.

Dr. Barrett (06:53):


Lauryn Bosstick (06:53):

But it's a hard process, in general. I didn't experience, and I've talked to a lot of women with implants that didn't experience any difficulty. So if that's something that's something-

Dr. Barrett (07:01):


Lauryn Bosstick (07:01):

... stopping you-

Dr. Barrett (07:07):

Breastfeeding is very important, and you want to try, but you don't want to give up just because you have implants, because it's actually hard. If you look at the studies, the evidence is only about seven to 15% reported difficulty. The way I try to do my operations, I actually try to avoid the glandular tissue. If you think about the glandular tissue, you have all the breast mound going up to the nipple. That is your breast milk network, and you don't want to mess with that. So I sometimes do a periareolar incision, but I'm not going behind the nipple, I'm not messing with it, I'm diving down and underneath and around that. So I like to think that my operations are a little more less intrusive on the breastfeeding capabilities of patients.

Lauryn Bosstick (07:46):

You're not intrusive either on the scarring. I don't even see a scar. It doesn't even look like I have implants, which is-

Dr. Barrett (07:52):


Lauryn Bosstick (07:53):

They're perky and great-

Dr. Barrett (07:55):


Lauryn Bosstick (07:55):

Sorry, all the guys in here, I'll show you later. I'm just kidding.

Dr. Barrett (07:58):


Lauryn Bosstick (08:01):

But they're very, very perky, the scar is very minimal. You went through the bottom half of my nipple-

Dr. Barrett (08:01):


Lauryn Bosstick (08:07):

... and I breastfed, and they still look the same. I think that I would say the reason they still look the same is I, obviously, had a good doctor for them, and also I did little things to take care of them. Like, the baby can sort of hang off the breast. You have to make sure the head's supported.

Dr. Barrett (08:26):

I'm absolutely horrified by these concepts. I know my wife-

Lauryn Bosstick (08:29):

You have to.

Dr. Barrett (08:30):

... has two babies now, so we know, but-

Lauryn Bosstick (08:32):

I can't believe you're horrified. He does breast for a leaving.

Dr. Barrett (08:34):

No. Just a baby hanging off a breast is just-

Lauryn Bosstick (08:37):

well, the baby can hang and it can pull the breast down.

Dr. Barrett (08:40):

I think us men, we just have no clue about this. I know about-

Lauryn Bosstick (08:43):

I wish I could attach the baby to my husband's balls. He needs to see what it feels like.

Dr. Barrett (08:47):

Yes. I imagine that's probably something that could be beneficial for understanding. When my wife got pregnant, we both gained weight. She's like, "Let's go get some cheeseburgers and hamburgers, and go to get some pasta." And it was like, yeah, this is great. We're all looking at each other and we're gaining weight. Tell us about that. Let's back up prior, prior to breastfeeding. Tell us about that journey. Did anything happen to your breast? Did what happened to your body? Like-

Prior to breastfeeding, What happened?

Lauryn Bosstick (09:18):

Nothing happened to my breasts.

Dr. Barrett (09:19):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:19):

They stayed the same.

Dr. Barrett (09:20):

Okay. Now, but now before you had implants, did you... what size were your breasts?

Lauryn Bosstick (09:23):

I was a B.

Dr. Barrett (09:24):

Okay. you're relatively smaller-

Lauryn Bosstick (09:26):

Yeah. I was-

Dr. Barrett (09:26):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:27):

... a big B.

Dr. Barrett (09:27):


Breastfeeding now

Lauryn Bosstick (09:28):

And so now I would say I'm a 32D, probably.

Dr. Barrett (09:31):

Wow. Okay.

Lauryn Bosstick (09:31):

I think, maybe. I don't know.

Dr. Barrett (09:31):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:33):

I actually don't really know.

Dr. Barrett (09:35):

What size is that, Victoria Secret sizing?

Lauryn Bosstick (09:38):

The bra that I wear is a very random brand.

Dr. Barrett (09:38):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:38):

It's 32D.

Dr. Barrett (09:42):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:43):

I could be maybe a 34C, and I'm just measuring wrong.

Dr. Barrett (09:46):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:47):

But breastfeeding was very, very seamless.

Dr. Barrett (09:47):


Weight gain for breastfeeding

Lauryn Bosstick (09:51):

What was not seamless was the weight game.

Dr. Barrett (09:53):


Lauryn Bosstick (09:54):

I think a lot of women experience this, not your wife, not your wife.

Dr. Barrett (09:59):

She gained weight.

Lauryn Bosstick (10:00):

Not your wife.

Dr. Barrett (10:00):

I could talk about it because-

Lauryn Bosstick (10:02):

Oh my gosh.

Dr. Barrett (10:02):

...she gained weight.

Lauryn Bosstick (10:03):

I feel like she snapped back. I gained 55 pounds-

Dr. Barrett (10:05):


Lauryn Bosstick (10:06):

... and I still have 10 pounds to lose.

Dr. Barrett (10:08):


Lauryn Bosstick (10:08):

So it was wild on my body. From my feet to everything, but I did not get stretch marks.

Dr. Barrett (10:17):

Okay. Tell us about that. Because I get that question all the time, how do I get rid of stretch marks? How do I prevent stretch marks?

Lauryn Bosstick (10:24):

I think that it's genetic, but I don't... You would know more than me, but I also doused myself in oil.

Dr. Barrett (10:31):


Lauryn Bosstick (10:31):

It doesn't need to be a brand, it can be grape seed oil from the market.

Dr. Barrett (10:34):


Lauryn Bosstick (10:35):

But I doused myself in it and I think that really helps not stretching all the time.

Dr. Barrett (10:39):

Yeah. So you douse yourself in oil?

Lauryn Bosstick (10:41):


Dr. Barrett (10:42):

Did you take any supplements?

Lauryn Bosstick (10:44):

I did. I took a bunch of tinctures, like oat straw and random herbs, and then I took ritual prenatals.

Dr. Barrett (10:51):


Lauryn Bosstick (10:51):

I think that's a great vitamin, it's very front of what's in it, which I like. And then I did this crazy psycho smoothie every day with spallina, and omega, and selenium, copper, all the things, and shoved it in there.

Dr. Barrett (10:51):


Lauryn Bosstick (11:06):

And then tons of bone broth. Now, did the bone broth also help with the stretch marks? I don't know.

Dr. Barrett (11:11):

Yeah. So I was actually trying to look at studies, and there's a lot of studies on vitamin E, cocoa butter. They're inconclusive, but there has been a little bit evidence on vitamins and nutrients in your body. So like vitamin C, for example, you're actually more prone to develop stretch marks if you don't have adequate vitamin C. Now, I'm sure it's not limited to vitamin C. I'm sure there's a bunch of other things. I do think it's also genetic, but yeah, I think that's one of the holy grail things, if we could prevent stretch marks. Because 55 pounds, that's a lot. I think the average woman-

Lauryn Bosstick (11:42):

A lot.

Dr. Barrett (11:42):

... is going to develop stretch marks, and if you didn't, there's something special that you're doing.

Lauryn Bosstick (11:46):

It's a lot. Everyone I talk to says, "Oh, it falls off. That's not true." For me, it did not fall off. It was very slow. It makes you depressed when you're that overweight. I was so-

Dr. Barrett (11:46):


Lauryn Bosstick (11:58):

It was so much weight on my body. Also, I think that postpartum anxiety aren't talked about enough. Mixed with the weight gain, you don't feel hot. And then you can't even get a mommy makeover because you want to have more kids. So it's just like-

Dr. Barrett (11:58):


Lauryn Bosstick (12:11):

It's a lot.

How long did you breastfeed?

Dr. Barrett (12:13):

Yeah. If you're breastfeeding, then... How long did you breastfeed for?

Lauryn Bosstick (12:16):

I breasted for four months.

Dr. Barrett (12:17):

Amazing. That interferes with breast size, too. So it's just like, if we need to do some... You said your breasts are fine, but some women, I... we tell them, okay, are you still breastfeeding? They're like, yes. And I'm like, shoot, we got to wait six months until you're done breastfeeding until we can come in and talk about your breast.

Lauryn Bosstick (12:32):

So you can't do anything with breast if someone's breastfeeding?

Dr. Barrett (12:36):

You don't want to, because the breast is very active. There's a lot of blood supply going to it, there's milk production, and that can interfere with... that can cause infection, that can cause problems. Also, throws off your sizing. It's like hitting a moving target. You'd rather just have things stable, you'd rather factory closed down for business before you do your renovations.

Postpartum depression

Lauryn Bosstick (12:56):

So you're also in a very tender place after you give birth, and I think that the... you have to really get your mind right. After three months of postpartum, my mind did not feel right. You feel like you're in a fog.

Dr. Barrett (13:13):

Now, tell me about at that. Did you have a normal vaginal delivery? Did you have any tocin? Did you have any-

Lauryn Bosstick (13:18):

I had Pitocin.

Dr. Barrett (13:19):

The use of oxytocin or Pitocin during labor-

Lauryn Bosstick (13:23):


Dr. Barrett (13:24):

... increases your risk of postpartum depression.

Lauryn Bosstick (13:25):


Dr. Barrett (13:26):

A lot of people don't know that. So I'm not a special-

Lauryn Bosstick (13:29):

So you would say not to get it, if you can.

Dr. Barrett (13:31):

Listen I'm going to tap out of that conversation.

Lauryn Bosstick (13:33):

I'll ask you [inaudible 00:13:34].

Dr. Barrett (13:34):

Yeah. I'll tap out of the conversation.

Lauryn Bosstick (13:36):


Dr. Barrett (13:37):

There's a lot of reasons to give that medication when doctors deem it necessary. It's not my field. But there is a study that links tocin administration with postpartum depression. You have to be aware of that. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (13:47):

maybe that's why it was so gnarly.

Dr. Barrett (13:50):

Could be. Could be.

Lauryn Bosstick (13:51):

That's interesting.

Dr. Barrett (13:53):

So my wife and I, we took a class called hypnobirthing, and it was... I think we told you about this. I don't know.

Lauryn Bosstick (13:58):

I think you might have told me-

Dr. Barrett (13:59):


Lauryn Bosstick (13:59):

... about this on the podcast.

Dr. Barrett (14:00):

It sounded so fu-fu and all this other stuff, but it was really a lot of techniques that help with normal delivery. But I, first of all, have never been pregnant. My wife is amazing that she was able to do it the way she did it and... But there's a lot of things that we don't understand fully the consequences later on and so forth in terms of medication usage, when you're giving birth.

Medications and antibiotics

Lauryn Bosstick (14:20):

Someone was telling me the other day that the medication stays in your body for two years?

Dr. Barrett (14:26):

Which one? Which Medication?

Lauryn Bosstick (14:30):

I think the-

Dr. Barrett (14:30):


Lauryn Bosstick (14:30):

... the antibiotic that they give you, I don't know what the name is.

Dr. Barrett (14:33):

So the antibiotic doesn't stay in your system, but the impact the has on your gut does.

Lauryn Bosstick (14:37):

That's what they said.

Dr. Barrett (14:37):

So like 90% of your-

Lauryn Bosstick (14:39):


Dr. Barrett (14:40):

... serotonin comes from your gut. That's your happy drug. I'm sure you've probably heard about this.

Lauryn Bosstick (14:45):

Yes. But I didn't... he didn't say it like this, but it's true what you're saying. So it stays in your gut.

Dr. Barrett (14:52):

Yeah. You have a memory of it, because it's wiped out a certain select bacteria. I'm guilty of this, I prescribe antibiotics [inaudible 00:14:59] and I do for my patients, as well, because we're creating an all-you-can-eat buffet for the bacteria that are around your skin and everything. So it's just yes, I use it briefly, but then I recommend that patients take probiotics right after to restore that.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:14):

Did you say ear surgery?

Dr. Barrett (15:17):

Ear surgery?

Lauryn Bosstick (15:18):

You said-

Dr. Barrett (15:18):


Lauryn Bosstick (15:18):

... I recommend it for blank surgery.

Dr. Barrett (15:21):

For antibiotics.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:22):


Dr. Barrett (15:22):

Yeah. For most of my surgeries.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:22):

Most of your surgeries.

Dr. Barrett (15:25):

Yeah, yeah.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:25):

I thought you said ear surgery.

Dr. Barrett (15:26):

Especially for using implants. Right? Because-

Lauryn Bosstick (15:28):

Got it.

Dr. Barrett (15:28):

... implants your body can't clear any infection on that.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:31):


Dr. Barrett (15:31):

So that's a big problem. If that gets infected, we've got a bigger problem than repopulating your gut flora.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:38):

I bet that doesn't happen, though, a lot with you, because you were very meticulous and precise.

Dr. Barrett (15:41):

I don't. I've had maybe two implant infections-

Lauryn Bosstick (15:45):


Dr. Barrett (15:46):

... and I've done thousands of breast surgeries. So not going to wood. It's... It happens, but it's one of the reasons why I prescribe antibiotics.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:55):

Can you tell me... Let's just do a little consult on air-

Dr. Barrett (15:58):

Oh boy.

Lauryn Bosstick (15:59):

... about mommy makeovers.

Dr. Barrett (16:00):

Okay. All right. I want to go a little further. So you had the baby, you had a normal vaginal delivery-

Lauryn Bosstick (16:06):


Dr. Barrett (16:07):

... and that went great.

Lauryn Bosstick (16:07):


Dr. Barrett (16:08):

Have a healthy baby, and-

Lauryn Bosstick (16:08):

Healthy baby.

Dr. Barrett (16:09):

... your husband's okay.

Lauryn Bosstick (16:09):

Still 10 pounds lose-

Dr. Barrett (16:11):


Lauryn Bosstick (16:11):

... my husband's okay.

Dr. Barrett (16:11):


Lauryn Bosstick (16:12):

He's recovering nicely.

Dr. Barrett (16:13):

Okay, good.

Lauryn Bosstick (16:16):

He acts like he had the baby. Everything's good now.

Dr. Barrett (16:16):

Good. Okay.

Lauryn Bosstick (16:20):

And my boobs are perky.

Preparing for the pregnancy

Dr. Barrett (16:20):

Okay. So tell me, what changes... Did you do anything to prepare for the pregnancy? Any tips that you had to preserve your body while you were pregnant, and anything afterwards to help get your body back?

Lauryn Bosstick (16:34):

I believe-

Dr. Barrett (16:34):

I want to know about that.

Lauryn Bosstick (16:35):

... that the baby feels the energy of the mother. I really believe that. My intuition told me that my whole pregnancy. So I was very adamant about working out every single day. I worked out every single day until I gave birth.

Dr. Barrett (16:51):


Lauryn Bosstick (16:51):

Not necessarily about my body, just-

Dr. Barrett (16:53):

What kind of workouts were you doing?

Lauryn Bosstick (16:53):


Dr. Barrett (16:53):

Okay. That's-

Lauryn Bosstick (16:53):

So low impact.

Dr. Barrett (16:53):

... what I hear about is really good for-

Lauryn Bosstick (16:57):

Well, I still gained 55 pounds, so it wasn't about-

Dr. Barrett (16:57):


Lauryn Bosstick (17:00):

... the weight gain, it was more like just, I walked there, so it was an hour walk, and then I was able to stretch my body and move my body. I really do think that made the delivery easier. So Pilates was great, but the end energy was so important, who I surrounded myself with, staying away from toxic situations, a lot of breath work, and just really, really trying to zen myself out. It got so gnarly, that after I gave birth, we ended up moving to Austin, because we were just craving very low cortisol zen nature. Maybe that has to do with quarantine and COVID, as well.

Dr. Barrett (17:41):

Zaza was a COVID baby.

Lauryn Bosstick (17:41):

She was born January 26th, so right when... right before everyone went into lockdown.

Newly born baby and lockdown

Dr. Barrett (17:46):


Lauryn Bosstick (17:46):

I just think that the baby picks up on your energy. So if you can ground yourself and... I know this sounds weird, but not putting your laptop on top of your stomach or on your phone all the time. Because I think that the waves and all the frequency goes into your stomach.

Dr. Barrett (18:01):


Lauryn Bosstick (18:02):

Might sound crazy. That's maybe-

Dr. Barrett (18:03):

There's a lot of people that talk about EMF, and there's people that talk about 5G. I don't know the evidence about it, but I've heard some people on various podcasts talk about that. I said, yeah, I think we don't know... The fetal growth and development is so delicate. A study just came out that talked about even one cup of coffee, of caffeinated coffee, during pregnancy a day, or even half a cup can actually lead to lower birth weight a child. It's like, okay, did you drink coffee?

Lauryn Bosstick (18:32):

I had a little bit of coffee.

Dr. Barrett (18:33):


Lauryn Bosstick (18:34):

I definitely did, I had mocha.

Dr. Barrett (18:36):

Yeah. So it's-

Lauryn Bosstick (18:37):

I wasn't drinking like two cups a day. I probably had a half a cup of coffee five days a week.

Dr. Barrett (18:42):


Lauryn Bosstick (18:45):

I was pretty relaxed. My friend couldn't believe when I was eating a locks bagel. She was pregnant, and she couldn't believe it.

Dr. Barrett (18:52):

[inaudible 00:18:52].

Lauryn Bosstick (18:52):

I was very lax, but that's my personality, I think.

Dr. Barrett (18:56):

But now, if you go to Japan, there's pregnant women that eat sushi.

Lauryn Bosstick (18:56):


Dr. Barrett (18:59):

And if you go to Italy, there's pregnant women that drink alcohol. So it's like there's some regional differences-

Lauryn Bosstick (19:03):

I had a little wine here and there, especially when the baby was like cooked, and it was like-

Dr. Barrett (19:07):

Ready to go.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:08):

... January 1st, I had like a glass of red wine.

Wine to induce pregnancy

Dr. Barrett (19:10):

So my wife did that, literally, to try to get the baby out. Supposedly, people talk about drinking wine to help induce pregnancy.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:17):

Whatever works, right?

Dr. Barrett (19:19):

Yeah. Well, it worked.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:20):

Sex, wine, fuck. When you're ready to get it out, you're ready.

Dr. Barrett (19:23):

Absolutely. I don't know, but my wife could probably attest to that. She's done it twice now, so I'm pretty impressed. Actually, the second one-

Lauryn Bosstick (19:23):

Two and done, or maybe more?

Dr. Barrett (19:35):

Well, my wife's actually pregnant now, so she's pregnant with the third one. Yeah.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:38):


Dr. Barrett (19:38):

I know, you're one the few peoples to know. Yeah. And people in this room, so yeah.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:42):

Oh my gosh.

Dr. Barrett (19:42):

I know.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:42):

I want to catch up.

Dr. Barrett (19:43):

Yeah. So no, that's... you can't catch up to that.

Lauryn Bosstick (19:46):

[crosstalk 00:19:46].

Dr. Barrett (19:46):

You just heard it. Yeah, I know. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (19:48):

That's the hot tip of the day.

Dr. Barrett (19:51):

Yeah. Oops. We're live, I forgot. We'll see who gets that. Anyway. So, yeah. No. We're really excited. So we'll see. Well, fingers crossed. It's early, so we're going to keep our fingers crossed.

Lauryn Bosstick (20:02):


Dr. Barrett (20:03):

Thank you. Thank you.

Lauryn Bosstick (20:03):

It's very, very exciting.

Dr. Barrett (20:04):

But we did a home birth for the second one, and that was quite an experience.

Lauryn Bosstick (20:07):

Was it hospital, the first birth?

Dr. Barrett (20:09):

Hospital, the first one. Glad we did it.

Lauryn Bosstick (20:11):


Dr. Barrett (20:11):

But my wife kind of... She did Pilates, too-

Lauryn Bosstick (20:11):


Dr. Barrett (20:14):

... and she pushed the baby out super fast. She also did Pilates in recovery, as well, which I think I want to talk to you about, how do you get your body back? how do we take care of our bodies with and without plastic surgery after having a baby? But yeah, so she did Pilates. We did the hospital delivery, and it was great. But it only took her like 15 minutes to get the baby out. It was like that.

Lauryn Bosstick (20:37):


Dr. Barrett (20:38):

I think it was because she was very hardcore about the Pilates. And then we went so well, we had really good checkups and everything for the second one. They were like, "You could do home birth." And we were like, "Okay, let's do it."

Home Birth

Lauryn Bosstick (20:47):

How was it?

Dr. Barrett (20:47):

It was great.

Lauryn Bosstick (20:48):

It was good.

Dr. Barrett (20:48):

It was super luxurious. Imagine just being in the comfort of your own home, having the baby, and then you don't have to deal with like nurse coming by, checking your vitals. I get it, that's important for... It's-

Lauryn Bosstick (20:58):

Well, you're also-

Dr. Barrett (20:59):

To be able sleep in your own bed.

Lauryn Bosstick (21:00):

... a doctor, too.

Dr. Barrett (21:01):

I am, but I'm not that kind of doctor. But I was-

Lauryn Bosstick (21:03):

You don't want to check probably the vitals and all that. Right?

Dr. Barrett (21:06):

Yeah, of course. I was very careful careful with her, but we also had really good team. We had two midwives there-

Lauryn Bosstick (21:12):


Dr. Barrett (21:13):

... a doula to make sure that... and some family to help out. And-

Lauryn Bosstick (21:16):

Would you do it again, home birth?

Dr. Barrett (21:17):


Lauryn Bosstick (21:18):

So you're like-

Dr. Barrett (21:19):


Lauryn Bosstick (21:20):

... home birth?

Dr. Barrett (21:20):

Uncomplicated pregnancy, if you're second or more, I would 100% consult about it, think about it.

Lauryn Bosstick (21:27):

Okay. That's interesting. I had a hospital birth, everything was great. It was quick, it was easy. I actually loved giving birth. I loved it.

Dr. Barrett (21:37):

Did you have any pain medication?

Lauryn Bosstick (21:39):

I had the epidural epidural.

Dr. Barrett (21:41):


Lauryn Bosstick (21:41):

Which is like one of the best highs I've ever been on.

Dr. Barrett (21:43):

Wow. Okay.

Lauryn Bosstick (21:44):

It's Like, that's a party.

Dr. Barrett (21:45):

Well, maybe we should have a hospital birth.

Lauryn Bosstick (21:46):

Yeah. That fun. Just like your wife, quick, maybe that's Pilates.

Dr. Barrett (21:53):


Lauryn Bosstick (21:54):

Like couple pushes, baby was out. Doctor Ruth [inaudible 00:21:57], just right down the street. The recovery with Pilates, definitely I would recommend that.

Dr. Barrett (21:54):


Lauryn Bosstick (22:04):

I had to really get my eating under control.

Dr. Barrett (22:07):


Lauryn Bosstick (22:08):

Not that it wasn't out of the control.

Dr. Barrett (22:10):

I get it, the cravings are on another planet. So what were your particular cravings? Did you-

Lauryn Bosstick (22:16):

A chocolate chip bagel. Everyone's going to post me [inaudible 00:22:19] from Sam's Bagels. It's the best bagel you've ever had, with-

Dr. Barrett (22:24):


Lauryn Bosstick (22:24):

... butter and crunchy sea salt. Horrible.

Dr. Barrett (22:29):

Oh my gosh.

Lauryn Bosstick (22:29):

Because it's so addicting, and there's only this one bagel, and it would sell out right away in the morning, so I had to Postmate it, and that was just the craving that I had. And then tons of chips and salsa guacamole and all the things. But then I also... What I did is I tried to eat... crowd it out with healthy things. So so much bone broth, green juices, green smoothies, salads. I crowded it out, but I definitely had the chocolate chip bagel-

Dr. Barrett (22:54):

Got it.

Lauryn Bosstick (22:55):

Now, any problems with your body that you have not noticed?

... a lot.

Dr. Barrett (22:55):

So now, with your body, how do you feel about... Where are you noticing problems now that you didn't have before with your body?

Lauryn Bosstick (23:03):

Yeah. I think that it's not that there's problems, it's just looser skin.

Dr. Barrett (23:10):


Lauryn Bosstick (23:11):

The skin's integrity's changed.

Dr. Barrett (23:14):


Lauryn Bosstick (23:14):

It's like it's not as tight to the body.

Dr. Barrett (23:17):


Lauryn Bosstick (23:19):

So if I ever did a mommy makeover, I definitely think that would be interesting to explore the tightening of the skin. Stretch marks weren't the thing for me, it was more the skin.

Dr. Barrett (23:29):

Got it.

Lauryn Bosstick (23:30):

But it took a long time for me to lose a majority of the weight. It was not overnight, like I said. Just being puffy and retaining water and anything you're eating. There's a very unsexy side of it that I think needs to be talked about more.

Mental Body Hacks After Pregnancy

Dr. Barrett (23:47):

Well, what else, besides your diet, you doing Pilates, are there any recovery techniques or things that you did to help you mentally? Because you also said you had some postpartum depression.

Lauryn Bosstick (24:00):


Dr. Barrett (24:00):

Tell us all the hacks.

Lauryn Bosstick (24:01):

You're a doctor.

Dr. Barrett (24:01):


Lauryn Bosstick (24:02):

I'm not recommending this. This is my experience, my journey. I did mushrooms-

Dr. Barrett (24:08):


Lauryn Bosstick (24:09):

... at three days in a row and microdosed. I was so depressed and had so much anxiety. Obviously, the baby was taken care of, she was not with me.

Dr. Barrett (24:09):


Lauryn Bosstick (24:21):

I put my phone away, and it just made it 90% better.

Dr. Barrett (24:27):

That's amazing.

Lauryn Bosstick (24:27):

Yeah. I went into it with the intention... I wasn't drinking and partying, and this was-

Dr. Barrett (24:27):


Lauryn Bosstick (24:32):

... microdosing for the purpose that I was feeling so depressed. I did it three days in a row, and truly, 90% of the depression was gone afterwards.

Dr. Barrett (24:32):


Lauryn Bosstick (24:43):

And then it was just adding little things like breathwork-

Dr. Barrett (24:45):


Lauryn Bosstick (24:46):

... getting in front of a little bit of sun, getting in front of red light, actually things that you would do after surgery.

Dr. Barrett (24:53):

Yeah. So it's funny, actually. Vitamin D has been shown to decrease the risk of stretch marks. That's one other one that doing my research preparing for this, I wanted to bring up to you. I forgot to mention that. But, it also helps with your mood afterward.

Lauryn Bosstick (25:06):


Dr. Barrett (25:06):


Lauryn Bosstick (25:07):

I think also being in nature. I think nature, I didn't realize the importance of that until after I gave birth. To get outside while you're doing conference calls, and just be outside in the air, looking at the trees, looking at the sky, it sounds so boring, but it works, and grounding your feet in the sand, and putting your feet on the earth. If you think about it, when is the last time you went outside and put your feet on earth? Not cement, not your hardwood floor. I think doing things like that is really powerful.

Body Hacks

Dr. Barrett (25:39):


Lauryn Bosstick (25:40):

Yeah. [crosstalk 00:25:41].

Dr. Barrett (25:41):

It's really funny you mention that. I actually put grounding steps on my shoes, so yeah. I try to stay grounded throughout most of the day, I have a grounding mat in my bed, I have one... I go swimming in the ocean once a week, which is your perfect ground. Right?

Lauryn Bosstick (25:55):

Wow. I thought you were going to say oh... as a doctor, because I just thought maybe you'd say the science isn't-

Dr. Barrett (26:00):

Well as a doctor... I'm a classically trained doctor. If you look at the evidence for it, it's actually there. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (26:04):


Dr. Barrett (26:04):

... your body develops a positive charge throughout the day. Evolutionarily, we evolved over millions of years to be in contact with the ground, and all of a sudden we have rubber sole shoes, and now we can't, and now we have increasing risk of arthritis and a bunch of other stuff which could be attributed to developing this positive charge. Neutrophils get sticky when you have positive charge. So like your joints and everything gets sticky if that positive charge lingers, and neutrophils attacks sticky things.

Lauryn Bosstick (26:29):

So you have a grounding it's pad in your shoe right now or?

Dr. Barrett (26:33):

This shoe, no. I have it on my sneakers. So the ones that I was operating in. But it's just a little... it's a little strip-

Lauryn Bosstick (26:39):


Dr. Barrett (26:39):

... that's called EarthLink, or whatever. It goes inside the shoe, and then it wraps around and connects to the bottom. So I have it on all my shoes.

Lauryn Bosstick (26:45):

[inaudible 00:26:45].

Dr. Barrett (26:45):

So when I go running and so forth... And then I have some shoes that are leather-soled shoes that actually conduct, but without the strip. But yeah, I have those strips, and I also recommend it for my patients. Put a grounding mat on your bed when you're sleeping after surgery. So it helps decrease the... Because you inflammation is through the charts after having surgery. Anesthesia, the trauma. Especially for a mommy makeover, you're going to have a lot of total body trauma, cortisol, everything is going to be skyrocketing. So you want to decrease that. So things like supplements, fish oil, digestive enzymes, CBD, red light therapy. Sunlight is good, but you got to watch the UV light. You don't want to get too much of that. And then grounding. Grounding is-

Lauryn Bosstick (27:25):

This is why he's such a good doctor. There isn't a lot of doctors out there, and, trust me, I've interviewed a lot-

Dr. Barrett (27:31):


Lauryn Bosstick (27:31):

... that recommend all these natural things. Of course, I'm a big believer in Western medicine, but there are so many things that we can learn from different kinds of medicine and put it together and make this whole entire package.

Dr. Barrett (27:44):

Right. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (27:45):

Grounding after surgery, a mat, that is genius. It's really genius. I never would've thought of that. That's absolutely genius.

Dr. Barrett (27:52):

Yeah. Who wants to feel like crap for like three to four or five days? You want to get back to some normalcy.

Lauryn Bosstick (27:58):

You have to post the link to the mat and the things.

Dr. Barrett (27:58):


Lauryn Bosstick (27:58):

The mat and the-

Dr. Barrett (28:02):

We actually sell it on online store. We don't actually have the shoe links, but I'll post that. Yeah.

Lauryn Bosstick (28:06):

Oh my gosh.

Dr. Barrett (28:06):

We do sell the grounding mat, and it's from earthing.com.

Lauryn Bosstick (28:08):


Dr. Barrett (28:09):

This is the guy that's I think Dr. Overland, or whatever. he's come up with a lot of these products, and they're really high quality products, and we carry them, but he's got more stuff. If you want buy the one for your... You buy a pillow, it's grounded. You can buy like just a throw blanket that's grounded you. It connects to your outlet, so that-

Lauryn Bosstick (28:26):


Dr. Barrett (28:26):

... you can have it in your own house.

Lauryn Bosstick (28:27):

I'm going on your online store and getting that.

Dr. Barrett (28:29):


Lauryn Bosstick (28:29):

You know what, another thing you guys sell that really helped me, that I didn't mention, is there's this little tiny bottle of scar cream.

Dr. Barrett (28:35):


Lauryn Bosstick (28:36):

What's it called?

Dr. Barrett (28:37):

It's Skinuva.

Lauryn Bosstick (28:39):


Dr. Barrett (28:39):

So that's the product... We used to carry Biocorneum, which is good, it's a good product silicone. And then now we have a product called Skinuva that we recommend, it has some of the same silicone, and it's made by Dr. Chris Zoumalan, or developed by him. It's got scar gel in it, and it also has... or the silicone scar gel in it, and it also has fetal growth factors and vitamin C. So the fetal GRA growth factors are cool because that recreates the fetal wound environment. So if you were to scar a baby in utero, like cut a baby, it heals without a scar. So we're trying to recreate that with this scar gel, so that you can apply it and your body heals like no scar. Unfortunately, we're not quite there yet, but it does a lot better than average scar gel that's on the market, like Moderna and so forth.

Lauryn Bosstick (29:23):

That scar gel worked really, really well for my nipples, just so know.

Dr. Barrett (29:28):

amazing. That's good. Yeah. So yeah, you have all those little hacks. The latest is the CBD that we're trying to add, the terpenes, then, that help reduce inflammation after-

Lauryn Bosstick (29:39):

What is it called?

Dr. Barrett (29:40):

They have terpenes in them. There's all kinds of CBD. You have a cannabinoid system in your body that one controls anxiety, and one controls pain. So there's CBR1 receptors, and there's CBR2. CBR1 is for anxiety, CBR2 is for pain. What people know is that CBD helps with anxiety and pain, but then there's other different cannabinoids that we don't fully understand, and they actually augment the ability of CBD to work. We have these in in our body naturally, and plants even have them. And then when you take them after surgery, they can... or before surgery, they help with your anxiety, and they help with your pain. So we're trying to dial it for ones that really help lower that inflammation after surgery-

Lauryn Bosstick (30:24):

It's genius.

Dr. Barrett (30:25):

... so that your scars don't heal quite angry.

Lauryn Bosstick (30:28):

Inflammation is the worst.

Dr. Barrett (30:30):


Lauryn Bosstick (30:31):

I mean-

Dr. Barrett (30:31):

Yeah. It affects, affects so many different things.

Lauryn Bosstick (30:33):

It's the worst, and you do have to get a handle on it and be preventative about it. I think that CBD, that high quality CBD that you're talking about, anything you can do that's holistic like that.

Dr. Barrett (30:45):

I wrote your whole chapter. Did you publish the book yet?

Lauryn Bosstick (30:45):


Dr. Barrett (30:45):

You did?

Lauryn Bosstick (30:48):

The book the book's coming out-

Dr. Barrett (30:48):


Lauryn Bosstick (30:49):

... in July, it's called Get the Fuck Out of the Sun.

Dr. Barrett (30:51):

Get the Fuck.

Lauryn Bosstick (30:53):

What I mean-

Dr. Barrett (30:53):

Tell us about that.

Lauryn Bosstick (30:54):

... by that is vitamin D is great if in small amounts like you just said. Incidental-

Dr. Barrett (30:58):


Lauryn Bosstick (30:58):

... sun exposure, when you're running into 711, you're getting sun. I'm not a big believer in laying and baking out in the sun.

Dr. Barrett (30:58):


Lauryn Bosstick (31:05):

I had a horrible experience with hyperpigmentation, I think it creates fine lines. This is my experience, talking to so many doctors, experts, influencers, celebrities. So I just gathered everyone, a hundred of the top of the top of the top, and got all their tips, tricks and secrets, and sort of squeezed it like a lemon and got all the juice-

Dr. Barrett (31:24):


Lauryn Bosstick (31:24):

... put it in the book, and then it's all my tips and tricks, too. You have-

Dr. Barrett (31:24):


Lauryn Bosstick (31:28):

... a very big feature.

Dr. Barrett (31:29):


Lauryn Bosstick (31:29):

Just to call you out, it's so interesting when you interview so many different people, because you get all different kinds of work. So some people will write one sentence, some people will write that their skincare routine is a true attributed to drinking water and they are a celebrity, and you know like, come on-

Dr. Barrett (31:47):


Lauryn Bosstick (31:47):

... it's not water.

Dr. Barrett (31:47):


Lauryn Bosstick (31:48):

But yours was so thorough and so informative, and you can tell that you just took time and really put effort into it, and I appreciated that so much. I told this to my husband. I said, "When you do something, give it your everything, or don't do it at all." Just don't, just say no. And so I thought that was so amazing, how you just really shared it.

Dr. Barrett (32:12):

You have such a reach for people. It's like, we have a chance to help a lot of people. A lot of stuff that's out there that's free, that people aren't making money on... I'm all about making a great product, if it's beneficial. But if there's stuff that's out there free, people should know about that, too, like meditation and grounding-

Lauryn Bosstick (32:26):


Dr. Barrett (32:26):

... those are great. One cool supplement I mentioned in... I don't know. I think I mentioned it, it's called astaxanthin. So you talk about like protection from the sun. Have you heard of as astaxanthin?

Lauryn Bosstick (32:36):

I believe you wrote about it in the book.

Dr. Barrett (32:38):

Okay. It's the supplement that... It's the molecule that makes salmon turn pink-

Lauryn Bosstick (32:42):


Dr. Barrett (32:42):

... and it naturally protects you from the sun. So if you're in an area that has a lot of sun, you should, yes, year your sunscreen, whatnot, but you should also probably look into taking astaxanthin to help protect your body from those free radical damages. Because the way that UV light damages your cells is it goes in and it creates a bunch of free radicals. Once those free radicals generate, then they break your DNA in bad ways. There's [inaudible 00:33:06] breakages that happen specifically from UV light. So when you have free radical scavengers, like astaxanthin nearby, or lower inflammation in your body, overall, you're less likely to produce age-related changes and skin cancer from sun exposure.

Lauryn Bosstick (33:20):

The product that Dr. Barrett and I are going to release in three years is that, and it's going to be a matte pink bottle with-

Dr. Barrett (33:20):


Lauryn Bosstick (33:27):

... a little white salmon on it.

Dr. Barrett (33:29):

That's great. Love it. All right.

Lauryn Bosstick (33:31):

You have to bottle that product, though.

Dr. Barrett (33:33):

I mean-

Lauryn Bosstick (33:33):

I've never seen it-

Dr. Barrett (33:34):

... it's been out there. It's out there. It's-

Lauryn Bosstick (33:35):

No. But you got to repackage and give us the best of the best of the best.

Dr. Barrett (33:38):

Fair enough.

Lauryn Bosstick (33:39):

Add it his to-do list. I don't know if he has time.

Dr. Barrett (33:42):

Well, all right. So I want to talk a little bit more. You talked about breath work. Was there specific breath work that really worked for you? Was it like Wim Hof breathing, or, or 478 breathing, or box breathing? What was some breath work that you-

Lauryn Bosstick (33:54):

I optimize my life. Every single thing in my life is optimized, and I feel like you're the same way.

Dr. Barrett (33:54):


Lauryn Bosstick (33:59):

So how can you make the most of the minute? So for me, I'm going to take a 15-minute shower every single day. That's a given, we all take about a 15, 10-minute shower. So I said, how can I optimize that shower and get the most out of it? So what I realized, and I sort of hacked it, is that if I do 10 minutes of Wim Hof breath... Anyone can do it, it's free. You go on his Instagram, click the bio, it's 10 minutes. It changes your entire day. I do it in front of my red light, so I'm getting the red light and I'm getting the breath work, 10 minutes, and then I hop in a freezing, freezing cold shower for three minutes.

Dr. Barrett (34:33):


Lauryn Bosstick (34:34):

So people tell me, I don't have time for that. Well, you do, because you have 15 minutes for a shower. So you have your 10 minutes of breath work, three minute freezing, cold shower, and you're out and you're dried and you're dressed in two minutes.

Dr. Barrett (34:44):

How cold does your shower get? Because my-

Lauryn Bosstick (34:46):


Dr. Barrett (34:47):

Okay. Because my shower now is getting up... I bought this shower head you can get on Amazon, and it has has this little reading in the midldle, it tells you the temperature of your water. Because I take cold showers, too. So, yeah. Now, unfortunately, it's getting warmer now, so my temperature of my water getting up like 68. It used to be down into like the 50s. Maybe yours is, I don't know, but-

Lauryn Bosstick (35:05):

I don't know my... I need that measurer.

Dr. Barrett (35:07):

Yeah. So it's just a little shower head you put it on. It's a great shower head, it's on Amazon. Maybe we can link it into the notes or something like that. It runs off a... You don't have to change a battery or anything, it runs off the water pressure. It's the perfect little gadget for your shower head. Unless you want a really fancy shower head, but this thing looks and feels great. But anyway, it tells you the temperature, and it tells you how much water you're using, too, in case you're water-conscious. But anyway.

So my water temperature now is high 60s. So I just ordered an ice bath online-

Lauryn Bosstick (35:35):

I knew-

Dr. Barrett (35:36):

Just ordered it today, actually.

Lauryn Bosstick (35:37):

What Brand?

Dr. Barrett (35:38):

So there's a couple different ones out there. This one I found on Instagram.

Lauryn Bosstick (35:38):


Dr. Barrett (35:42):

I'm not plugging it, because I haven't used it.

Lauryn Bosstick (35:44):


Dr. Barrett (35:44):

I've talked to their owner and he was very responsive and we had a great talk about it. It's Morozko Forge. I don't-

Lauryn Bosstick (35:44):


Dr. Barrett (35:51):

... know if you've heard of them.

Lauryn Bosstick (35:51):

I have to look at it.

Dr. Barrett (35:52):

They're out of Phoenix. I'm not endorsing them yet, we're going to go check, and if it's good, I'll post it up on my Instagram or my TikTok. But-

Lauryn Bosstick (35:59):

Don't you think that cold... We talked about this earlier, cold is so beneficial for inflammation. Even if you do surgery, I know it has to be a certain amount of time, I'm sure, but the cold.

Dr. Barrett (36:10):

Yeah. So the cold, it's... why it works though is pretty amazing. I always like to know, all right, people talk about cold showers, oh I feel great, I got so much energy, or I don't feel as depressed, but why? It's interesting. I read Wim Hof's book, and I came in here and like, I'm just going to start... I told everybody, got to start taking cold showers. I even tell my patients sometimes when they have like psoriasis and other stuff, start taking cold showers, because... and the Wim Hof breathing, which helps regulate your immune system. The way it works is if you were to... He talks about this in his book. Did you read his book, too?

Lauryn Bosstick (36:42):

I didn't read his book.

Dr. Barrett (36:42):


Lauryn Bosstick (36:42):

I interviewed him. I should read his book.

Dr. Barrett (36:44):

Wait. Yeah. He's got a lot of stuff out there, and he's an amazing individual. If you take all the blood vessels in your body, and you line them up end to end, they extend around the earth two to three times. Each one of your blood vessel, so a majority of them, have smooth muscle around it. So when you take a cold shower, you're flexing your musculature and your vasculature. Because it's like, oh, it's cold, I got to shrink up. And then when it's warm, it relaxes. So that contraction cycle actually increases the tone of your blood vessels, and it's just like you going to the gym.

Like if you never went to the gym, you would lose to and muscles. So what that toning effect has on your vasculature is that it decreases the work on your heart and lowers your stress and inflammation in your body. That's one of the ways that it works. But it actually has been shown to actually decrease depression greater than any medication that you can take.

Lauryn Bosstick (37:32):

I hundred percent agree with that.

Dr. Barrett (37:32):


Lauryn Bosstick (37:35):

I think every single person on earth should take 10 minutes for themselves. As Tony Robin says, if you don't have 10 minutes to yourself, you don't have a life. Take 10 minutes and breathe, and the cold minute shower, and it does make a difference.

Dr. Barrett (37:47):


Lauryn Bosstick (37:47):

I didn't know that about the blood vessels and the flexing. Jeez.

Dr. Barrett (37:51):

He gets in deep in his book, and that's why... I listen to his audio book when I'm running, and like... it's perfect. But-

Lauryn Bosstick (37:57):

Does he speak on the audio book? Because his voice is-

Dr. Barrett (37:58):

No, he doesn't. He has somebody else speak for him.

Lauryn Bosstick (37:58):

That's his voice.

Dr. Barrett (38:00):

I know. Yeah. He's got a-

Lauryn Bosstick (38:02):

I'll still listen to the audio book, though.

Dr. Barrett (38:04):

He has a great episode on [inaudible 00:38:05]. Was he on your podcast?

Lauryn Bosstick (38:06):

He was on our podcast.

Dr. Barrett (38:06):


Lauryn Bosstick (38:08):

I didn't even seen him on [inaudible 00:38:09] either. I have to watch it.

Dr. Barrett (38:10):

Okay. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (38:11):

That's where I think I heard about him, though, that-

Dr. Barrett (38:11):


Lauryn Bosstick (38:13):

... he was on the show.

Dr. Barrett (38:15):


Lauryn Bosstick (38:15):

But breath work, I think like to prescribe that even after surgery-

Dr. Barrett (38:15):


Lauryn Bosstick (38:20):

... is so off on guard and on the pulse of, I think, how you should be recovering for surgery.

Dr. Barrett (38:26):

I would even say to do it prior to surgery, too. Just you go in there, and you're able to handle the... it helps people with anxiety, too.

Lauryn Bosstick (38:33):


Dr. Barrett (38:34):


Lauryn Bosstick (38:34):

That makes a lot of sense.

Dr. Barrett (38:36):


Lauryn Bosstick (38:37):

Wim Hoff, you got to come on Dr. Barrett's podcast.

Dr. Barrett (38:39):

That would be great. I'll bring the ice bath in. Anyway. Now, okay. We talked about the extra, the laxity of the skin.

Lauryn Bosstick (38:39):


Dr. Barrett (38:51):

Now, part of the tummy tuck, I don't know this, helps deal with the extra skin, but it also helps deal with your muscles.

Lauryn Bosstick (38:56):


Dr. Barrett (38:57):

There's a phenomenon known as rectus diastasis, it happens to 60% of women who get pregnant.

Lauryn Bosstick (38:57):


Dr. Barrett (39:02):

Especially if you have twins or triplets, it gets even worse. That's the division of your six pack muscles.

Lauryn Bosstick (39:02):


Dr. Barrett (39:08):

They widen. Have you ever heard about that?

Lauryn Bosstick (39:09):

I have heard about this.

Dr. Barrett (39:10):


Lauryn Bosstick (39:10):

I've seen it on a friend.

Rectus Diastasis

Dr. Barrett (39:11):

Yeah. rectus diastasis, what happens is with pregnancy, your muscles widen, and they basically widen to make room for the baby. Especially, it can get worse if you have a lot of weight. That's why we want to try to watch our weight during pregnancy, so those muscles don't widen as much. There are techniques to, nonsurgically, tighten those muscles. There's a lot of Pilates techniques that actually can help St in that and bring that back together. It's a myth that you can't improve that, and it's definitely a myth not to do any ab workouts after pregnancy. People say that it's going to make it worse. The appropriate abdominal workouts can actually strengthen your abdominal muscles and help reduce that rectus diastasis. There's a lot of Pilates instructors that know exactly how to do that. But, everybody can get it all back with the exercises, and you might need surgery.

So part of a tummy tuck is, yes, we take care of the extra skin, but we actually go in and we tighten those muscles. Sometimes people can get a hernia by their belly button, and then we can fix that surgically at the same time. So I would suggest that if you're planning on having more children that you wait on at least the tummy tuck portion.

Lauryn Bosstick (40:20):

You wait on everything now?

Dr. Barrett (40:21):

Well, what else?

Mommy Makeover

Lauryn Bosstick (40:22):

I don't know. What is the mommy makeover?

Dr. Barrett (40:24):


Lauryn Bosstick (40:24):

I guess they don't know what that means.

Dr. Barrett (40:26):

... mommy-

Lauryn Bosstick (40:26):

I just say it.

Dr. Barrett (40:26):

All right. so there's a grand slam mommy makeover, and that is basically three areas. I came up with this term. So basically-

Lauryn Bosstick (40:33):

Yeah. Tell us the three areas.

Dr. Barrett (40:34):

The grand slam mommy makeover is your breast. So it's a breast augmentation, because they got deflated, breast lift, fat transferred to the breast, some type of breast rejuvenation. Again, why I love mommy makeovers is because we're not creating a different person, we're just trying to get your body back. If we're at it, why not boost it in some certain ways? If you want to be... You always wanted a breast augmentation, now is your chance. And then the tummy tuck, which we talked about, taking care of that extra skin, tightening the muscles, liposuction. And then lately, a lot of people have been doing fat transfer to the buttocks. So we take the fat, and then we transfer to the butt, it's a BBL. That's the three portions of-

Lauryn Bosstick (41:08):

Okay. I think what I also love about you, too, is when you hear BBL, you think huge butt. But I feel like you're conservative-

Dr. Barrett (41:18):


Lauryn Bosstick (41:19):

... in a way that looks realistic.

Dr. Barrett (41:21):

Depends on what people want. I'm not into kind of... I'm not into creating fake looks, I'm into making your body look in a way that's either restorative, or you could have been born that way and it looks good, and minimizing scars. With Brazilian butt lift, yes, you can go way too big. We know there's certain celebrities, we all love them, but some people comment that their bodies are just way out of proportion, and that gathers more attention. Whether they like that or not, that's typically not something I recommend to do, because over time-

Lauryn Bosstick (41:50):

So you would say your children, and then come talk to me?

Dr. Barrett (41:55):

Well, what I would suggest is, yes, have your children, but there are things you can do in between children.

Lauryn Bosstick (42:03):


Dr. Barrett (42:04):

So if your breasts are deflated, and you've always wanted to have your breast augmentation, and you're going to have a gap, more than a couple years in between your kids, get your breast augmentation.

Lauryn Bosstick (42:12):


Dr. Barrett (42:14):

Get liposuction, get... If you have stubborn areas that are just... you can't lose the love handles, or you can't lose the inner thighs, or whatever the area is, get a little liposuction in between. When you're not breastfeeding, it's totally fine. Save the tummy tuck till you're finally done.

Lauryn Bosstick (42:30):


Dr. Barrett (42:30):

Save any major breast lift... If you need a breast reduction, which can impact your ability to breastfeed... Unless breastfeeding is not important to you, which I think it should be. But if it's not important to you, then you don't have to worry about it. You can do breast lift, you could do breast reduction. Simple augmentation is pretty low in terms of-

Lauryn Bosstick (42:46):

What about the BBL? Can you get that-

Dr. Barrett (42:46):

You can-

Lauryn Bosstick (42:48):

If someone wants to get that after pregnancy and they're going to have more babies-

Dr. Barrett (42:53):


Lauryn Bosstick (42:54):

... would you wait or no?

Dr. Barrett (42:55):

No, absolutely. You could totally do that in between. If you want to feel good about your body... Some people, they just need something, take a little bit off from where you don't want it and put it where you do want it. It's-

Lauryn Bosstick (42:55):

Oh my God.

Dr. Barrett (43:05):

I know. Or just take it off and throw it away. Just get rid of it. But I tell you, fat is so valuable, you want to use it for something, whether it's facial rejuvenation, or you can even put it in your breast, if they're deflated. Just take a little fat, put it in your breast, in between, it's totally fine. There's other things you can do, too. Now, I know you can probably talk about this, as well. Some of the radio frequency skin tightening that you did after your first operation.

Lauryn Bosstick (43:25):

Yes. What is that called? I loved that.

Dr. Barrett (43:27):

That was Venus Legacy.

Lauryn Bosstick (43:27):

Venus Legacy..

Dr. Barrett (43:29):

Yeah. There's a couple other different modalities out there. There's-

Lauryn Bosstick (43:31):

That helped.

Dr. Barrett (43:32):

Yeah. Good.

Lauryn Bosstick (43:33):

That helped a lot.

Dr. Barrett (43:33):

Right. That actually is a... it's a soothing treatment. It's eight to 10 treatments, whatever, on the particular area, and it uses radiofrequency skin tightening to heat the collagen, to tighten it.

Lauryn Bosstick (43:33):


Dr. Barrett (43:45):

It also uses pulse magnetic energy, which we know actually helps improve the areas, as well.

Lauryn Bosstick (43:50):

If you had to recommend a non-invasive procedure, is that the one that you would recommend?

Dr. Barrett (43:55):

It just took depends on what you're looking for.

Lauryn Bosstick (43:55):


Dr. Barrett (43:56):

So if you're looking for skin tightening and a little bit of fat reduction, I think it's a reasonable choice to make if you're not looking for any major surgery.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:03):

Okay. Well, this is all good information. I feel like I had a consultation online.

Dr. Barrett (44:09):


Lauryn Bosstick (44:10):

For me, I think the best thing is for me to have my babies, and then come see you the second most when I'm in the hospital. Remember when I asked you if I got a C-section, could you come to the hospital and stitch me up?

Dr. Barrett (44:24):

Your obstetrician, I'm just going to high five them, and I'm going to step in, and we'll take care of it for you.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:27):

Can you do that?

Dr. Barrett (44:28):

Yeah, sure. No.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:28):

You can-

Dr. Barrett (44:30):

Some people do that, it's crazy. They'll do a C-section, and then do a tummy tuck right after.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:33):

At the same time?

Dr. Barrett (44:34):

Yeah. I don't recommend to do that.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:35):

That's what you told me, you said no.

Dr. Barrett (44:36):


Lauryn Bosstick (44:37):

I didn't get a C-section but if I did, I probably would've been texting Dr. Barrett.

Dr. Barrett (44:40):

Right. Get your tummy tuck right after. But how many children do you want to have?

Lauryn Bosstick (44:43):

I don't know.

Dr. Barrett (44:43):


Lauryn Bosstick (44:44):

I definitely want more.

Dr. Barrett (44:45):


Lauryn Bosstick (44:45):

I know that. So I'm not sure. We'll have to see.

Dr. Barrett (44:48):

Zaza needs a play friend.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:50):


Dr. Barrett (44:50):

I tell you, we have two kids and now they play with each other, and it's like... it makes our lives so much-

Lauryn Bosstick (44:54):

Is it easier or harder-

Dr. Barrett (44:54):

Way easier.

Lauryn Bosstick (44:55):


Dr. Barrett (44:56):

The second one's way easier, so-

Lauryn Bosstick (44:57):

Okay. That's good to know.

Dr. Barrett (44:58):

Good. Well, Lauryn, anything else you want to tell our listeners about? Wait, actually you have a product coming out, right?

Lauryn Bosstick (45:04):

I have a product that came out today. It's the Hot Mess Ice Roller and an Ice Queen Facial Oil, which is all about fighting inflammation. There's a menthol in it-

Dr. Barrett (45:04):


Lauryn Bosstick (45:13):

... it's really going to tighten the skin. It's non-scented, no synthetic fragrance. And then I was just talking to you earlier about what a fan I am of ice. I had double jaw surgery, it was horrific. I was swollen for three years. Huge face, couldn't... didn't even know what to do, and the only thing that worked was spatial manipulation and ice.

Dr. Barrett (45:35):


Lauryn Bosstick (45:36):

I feel like you, after everything we've talked about with ice baths and everything, you know how important ice is.

Dr. Barrett (45:42):


Lauryn Bosstick (45:42):

This one holds cold for hours and hours and hours.

Dr. Barrett (45:46):


Lauryn Bosstick (45:46):

So if you're inflamed, try it.

Dr. Barrett (45:47):

Yeah. So you promise you're going to send us a sample?

Lauryn Bosstick (45:47):

I'm going to send you one.

Dr. Barrett (45:49):

Okay. We're going to to use it for-

Lauryn Bosstick (45:52):

You can try it for a lip filler-

Dr. Barrett (45:53):


Lauryn Bosstick (45:53):

... or you can't do it after Botox, as you know, because you don't want to roll the Botox.

Dr. Barrett (45:57):


Lauryn Bosstick (45:58):

But if you have a filler, and you need something to really hold cold, or even, honestly, I would've used it after my boobs were done to just have cooling on it.

Dr. Barrett (46:07):

A lot of people ask if they could put ice on their surgery sites, yes you can. You don't want to have it for too long. Obviously, you don't want to get frostbite, but something like that sounds amazing.

Lauryn Bosstick (46:15):

Yeah. I'm going to definitely drop one off to you to try it out, and you can let me know what you think.

Dr. Barrett (46:19):


Lauryn Bosstick (46:20):

[crosstalk 00:46:20].

Dr. Barrett (46:19):

We're going to throw it up on our TikTok. Now, where can people find those products, and where can they find more about you?

Lauryn Bosstick (46:24):

Shopskinnyconfidential.com, and at the skinny confidential. Dr. Barrett is on our podcast, The Skinny Confidential HIM & HER. If you search the skinny confidential Dr. Barrett, that will come up. He's also been on my blog. I've had a very long relationship with him, and I highly recommend him. Everyone that comes to me, I just try to send them your way, because I know they are in good hands.

Dr. Barrett (46:46):

Lauryn, well, thank you so much for being on the show.

Lauryn Bosstick (46:49):

Next, you have to come on the podcast after I have the mommy makeover before [inaudible 00:46:52].

Dr. Barrett (46:53):

Are you in LA, or are you still in Austin?

Lauryn Bosstick (46:54):

We're in Austin-

Dr. Barrett (46:55):


Lauryn Bosstick (46:55):

... the majority of the time.

Dr. Barrett (46:55):

Okay, Great. Well, thanks for coming-

Lauryn Bosstick (46:58):

But we'll be back in LA. If I'm going to ever do plastic surgery, I'm going to fly to LA.

Dr. Barrett (47:02):

Wonderful. Well, I can't wait. So-

Lauryn Bosstick (47:02):

Thank you for having me.

Dr. Barrett (47:05):

... [inaudible 00:47:05]. Thanks for being here.

Lauryn Bosstick (47:06):

Thank you.

Dr. Barrett (47:06):

All right.

Lauryn Bosstick (47:06):

Thank you, guys.

Dr. Barrett (47:08):

Bye, guys. (silence).