Episode #Destigmatizing Plastic Surgery After Motherhood

On this episode of The Natural Plastic Surgeon,
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I gained 65 lbs. Wow. With two of my pregnancies, most of my friends were like posting bikini photos all of the time, and I'm like in the postpartum trenches. The first week that I did it,
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I lost 9 lbs because my body just one week. I didn't change how I was eating or anything. Girls are secret haters.
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So, if one of your friends is telling you not to do it, she doesn't want you to be hotter than her. Hey everybody,
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this is episode 47 of the Natural Plastic Surgeon podcast. We have uh one of our favorite patients, influencers,
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Jill Chill here, and she's had pretty much every single procedure u you can imagine that we offer. Not quite, but um and and she's a mom of three boys and
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and that's what we're really going to kind of try to dive into. having you in the office, we've we focus on the plastic surgery side of things and now we really get a chance to talk to you
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about kind of your personal side and like the journey that you know you you took to kind of get here, how you stay in just such amazing shape like tell us
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all your secrets, but when you got pregnant for the first time like what's it like to be a mom, you know, like you go cuz obviously you're fit and and you
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care about you know your physique and everything else and tell us tell us about that. Being a mom, the transition to it was actually kind of hard for me
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because I was always like 115 pounds. I had my first baby at either 22 or 23. I got married really young and so I had
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babies really young. I had just always heard and assumed that when you're pregnant young, things are going to be really easy for you. Your body's going to bounce back. It's going to be great.
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I gained 65 lbs with um two of my pregnancies. And that was really like mentally hard for me
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because I had always just been like this tiny little person and I felt like I was eating healthy, but also a 22-year-old like you are eating more processed food.
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Like you're not in that phase of your life yet where you've really had to care about your metabolism. So that showed through my pregnancy journey. Um working
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out like just wasn't enough. And so then that was hard for me because I just always had heard the term bounce back. So when I had my baby, I was like, "Oh,
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I'm just like swollen. I this is like a lot of water weight and it ended up not being and I still was 45 lbs heavier
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than I was before giving birth. And so that was really really hard for me because I just had never had to really like work
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hard or lose weight or anything like that. So one, you're trying to figure out who you are as a mom and I like love my kids and they're the best part of me.
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But that was just really hard because it was I was young. Most of my friends were like just graduating college, like posting bikini photos all of the time.
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And I'm like in the postpartum trenches.
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Like I didn't really have any other young mom friends, too. So, it was a really weird transition for me because I was at a phase of life that,
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you know, none of my friends were at.
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So, it was kind of weird. And then trying to figure out how do I lose all this weight while I wanted to maintain breastfeeding? And I always heard you need to keep your calories up. So, it
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was kind of like a weird time. What what kind of support did you have at that time or like what resources do you have to help you get through that?
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My husband and I actually live out here without any family in California. So, it was kind of just like us two at the time. My mom, sister, and dad and I like
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we weren't all like super close because I feel like it's just like a time of your life when you're finding yourself.
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I got married young. Like I made some decisions where I just like really wanted to be hyper independent. And so I basically was like moming by myself. My
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husband works six days a week. So, I had my salon girlfriends who were kind of like my support, but at the same time,
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they were still in different phases of life for me. So, it was kind of weird.
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Yeah. Wow. That must have been really challenging.
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It was. And I feel like you go through a little bit of like postpartum depression. I had um I'm on SSRI still and that I feel like has really helped
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cuz I did a lot of like the holistic things like um eltheanine and all that kind of stuff and sometimes you just need a little bit more support. So,
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of course. No, absolutely. If you could go back to your 23-year-old self pre-baby, and if you could give some advice to yourself, what would it be to
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kind of like prepare better for the um being pregnant and the multiple pregnancies and everything else?
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I think just like really like food is like energy for your body and I hadn't learned that yet. I feel like I was
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always maybe a little bit stressed or had that anxiety and I take that out on food. So like I really like sweets so like when I'm stressed. So, I think just
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managing that ahead of time and like prepping my body and maybe getting in a better workout routine cuz I my whole
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childhood was really fit. I danced everything but then I just didn't keep up with that after cuz I was working long days at the salon and I was like,
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"Oh, well, I'm standing all day so that's like working out." But, I mean, that's it's not the same.
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Yeah. No, totally. It's funny. It's like, you know, cuz we have four kids and when my wife got pregnant u multiple times, it's it's like something in the
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air like, you know, she would gain weight and and I would gain I would gain weight, we would go get burgers and pasta and it's so powerful whatever that
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hormone surges or that uh nest making stuff. I I don't know. But it's it's powerful and it's it catches you on it catches you off guard. It caught me off
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guard. It caught my wife off guard and everything else. And so I feel like um as a plastic surgeon I say this as as best as I can like you know gaining 65
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lbs um I'm not no one's going to be critical that but obviously we want to try to aim for like you know 35 40 right
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because people ask me it's like oh I'm going to get pregnant I'm going to have things get redone I find that patients that don't gain too much weight obviously the healthy amount of weight
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is important so I'm not saying starve yourself by any means you kind of have to navigate that carefully because you know there's there's a lot of emotions and things going on. I've noticed my
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patients don't gain more than 35 lbs and I don't need to do a whole lot of like breast lifts after breast implants or or stuff like that. So, I I find uh
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maintaining a healthy weight during pregnancy and there's guidelines for that. So, you could check with your doctor on that, right? So, I'm not here to to tell you one sizefits-all. So, um
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but yeah, you know, that that's that is partly why you know um you had to come see me. Yeah.
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Um that's a whole different subject like you know, you've never had you never had plastic surgery before. I mean, did you ever even have surgery before? my just
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my wisdom teeth out. So, literally like that's feels like not anything.
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You lost the baby weight, the the 40 lbs, right? How did how did you do that?
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I mean, people out there really would want to want to know that.
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So, my first baby was easier. I was crazy. I started doing like Orange Theory and Pilates, so I wanted like cardio, all that. And then I really was
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like healthy. Like two of my meals, I didn't have any carbs with them. I had like very like nutrient-packed like salmon and broccoli and like veggies.
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And I just like really like I bought cookbooks. I was like learning how to cook. I just like went like ham. And it's nice too cuz you have your baby. I
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was like making all the stuff for him too that was like healthy when I was introducing that. So for my first baby um it took about 9 months for me to feel
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really like good about myself. But then again, I finally lost the weight. I had a lot of loose skin. So I still didn't feel myself. My second baby, I didn't
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gain that much weight. And so I almost was like kind of back at my postpartum like initially.
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For the second baby, did you eat healthier or did you make better choices or just you just knew better or like what happened?
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I think that I like would work out 5 days a week. I was like really conscious about like what I ate and everything. My
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that baby was a like a little bit smaller. So I don't know sometimes if it's just like that pregnancy was the easiest pregnancy I had. supposedly has
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something to do with the genetic makeup of the baby, too, you know. So, my wife had the same situation, but a lot of people don't know that it's actually good to exercise during pregnancy. Um,
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of course, check with your doctor, but,
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you know, a lot of people feel they get the message, oh, you're supposed to breast in bed. That's not really you're not supposed to do that. So, you do want to maintain activity um when you're
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pregnant. And I feel like that um that helps a lot. I must it seems like that helped for you, too.
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Yeah, it totally helped. And then my last pregnancy, it was kind of in between like I gained 45 pounds. So,
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like a little bit more cuz I was running after two kids. It was, you know, you kind of pick up like eat some of their mac and cheese off the plate, like just stuff like that. It's a little bit. But
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then that was the hardest. I could not get that weight to come off. It was 6 months of sauna. I felt like I was like almost starving myself cuz I was like,
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why is the weight not coming off? Like I was stuck with like an extra 20 lbs. So then I met with my doctor and my pre-diabetes levels were kind of high.
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So tell us about that. So when you say pre-diabetes, was it like your fasting glucose or what did they say? My insulin was like pretty So they actually measured your insulin.
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Yeah, that's really cool. So I did function health. Okay.
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So I did function health. Um cuz then I had like some other stuff to compare and they're like it's looking like the chart is going up higher. And so she did a
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couple things and she's like, "I honestly would recommend for you to do um a GLP1 like if you are having issues cuz it seems like you're doing
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everything that you can like." And I was getting really frustrated and so I started doing that.
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For listeners out there, this is an important concept. Um our current medical system checks uh fasting glucose
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levels, right? So fasting glucose levels if it's above 100 that that's typically you're you're headed into pre-diabetes or diabetes, right? So because normally
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if you're fasting it it doesn't go above 100. But the problem is is by the time you're fasting glucose which means the blood you the sugar that's in your blood
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starts to go over 100. You've got many upstream problems that you you could have picked up on sooner. And one of those is actually your fasting insulin
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level. So insulin controls the amount of blood sugar in your blood. Obviously your diet controls that too. If your insulin is not working because you've
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had so much blood sugar, then um you become insulin resistant. And that's why GLPs are not bad because they they improve the insulin sensitivity. So
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meaning that now your insulin is, you know, is working because if your in fasting insulin's high, it means your body's having to produce more of it to get it to work and it's not working
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right. So that's your insulin resistance from all your cells. So exercise improves that. GLP uh GLP1s will will improve that as well. So it seems like that's that's kind of the pathway.
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Within the first week that I did it, I lost 9 lbs because my body just one week I I went back and they're like, "Oh my gosh, like your body just must have like
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processed things like and I didn't change how I was eating or anything."
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And so within one month I had lost the weight that I wanted to and I just then,
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you know, maintain I have a healthy routine like already I would.
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Now, were you breastfeeding when this happened or I was done breastfeeding cuz they were recommended for me to wait until I was done.
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Yeah. I I don't think there's any studies on it with with breastfeeding. So yeah. Okay.
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Yeah. So, I waited and then um I did that for about uh 6 months consistently
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at like the starting dose and now I just micro dose it like once every two to 3 weeks and I just keep it now like
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inflammation off and for food noise cuz I do still love dessert the second that it wears off.
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There's nothing wrong with that every now and then. But it's interesting, you know, GLPS can be used as a tool. A lot of people like, "Oh, I don't want to start it because I don't want to be on it forever." And I think you're proof in
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the pudding is like, you know, you you use it as a tool to kind of get over a hump, learn about your body, retrain your system, and then you you know, you
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do occasionally and and that and you're using it specifically, right? So, I think that's I think that's awesome.
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Yeah. And there are there are studies that shows that it lowers inflammation.
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A lot of people micro dose with it. Even though they don't have weight issues,
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that insulin resistance is is a is a really important thing to get under control. Yeah.
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In terms of your diet, did that change too? Are you um like what do you eat on a typical day? Um, so usually for breakfast I do like bone broth and eggs,
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like egg white bites or whatever. Low carb.
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Yeah. So I try to do like low carb in the morning. I do love a sugary iced coffee. So I do have that. I love it. Is it Starbucks?
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No. Okay. Okay.
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No, my girlfriend owns a coffee shop down and their stuff is like housemade and clean and like their syrups, all the stuff. So, I do that and then um for
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lunch I usually do either some kind of like sandwich or like a salad or something. And then for dinner, I try to
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make something and I do a lot of like Thai food, like a lot of like rice and not so much like heavy. I used to like love cheese and dairy and I've tried to
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cut back on that. So, I just feel like I try to pick things that are whole foods. Yeah, a lot of protein, too.
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Outside Yeah. Protein outside of the grocery store. I feel like there's just way too much sugar uh in our modern diet. So, it seems like you optimized everything on your end. And then um what
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happened like what happened next? Like what what made you think about doing plastic surgery?
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Before I had my third baby, I was always at the beach with my two kids and I couldn't find a swimsuit that wasn't a
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sports bra because my boobs were so saggy. Like the loose skin would literally like I feel like my nipples were always hanging out at the beach
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like chasing after them. It was so frustrating. And I didn't really even have a lot of boobs to begin with, but then when I got pregnant, I had some and
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I like really liked it. And it was something I had always thought about getting. And so I was talking to my husband. I was like, I think this would
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just help my confidence so much. And I literally love them. So then I was just like, okay, I want to go get a
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consultation. I know like I want to breastfeed more. And I had seen a holistic influencer that came to you because I was just after me becoming a
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mom, I feel like I was very health consscious. especially gaining a lot of that weight.
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Like I was like, I don't want to just go to any plastic surgeon. I want to make sure that I'm finding someone that supports your body and like kind of respects all of that. So
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my thought process was just I was tired like and we live in Southern California.
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You're at the I'm at the beach like three to four times a week. So it was just That's awesome.
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Yeah. We like 10 minutes away. It's so nice.
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Cool. All right. So I'm we were just always swimming, always doing all these things and it was just like I didn't love how I looked like in closed and so
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if it wasn't a huge deal, but one of my boobs was like three inches lower than the other. So like when you're naked,
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you're just kind of like this is not a look.
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And it's reasonable, right? Like you want to feel good about your body. Kids are they they're a nightmare on our bodies. With the breast specifically,
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what did you notice? Like so is it was you wanted to fit better into bikinis better like you weren't filling out certain like bra size or outfits or what was it specifically with the breasts? I
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mean, obviously the one was lower than the other. We we did an internal lift and that was really cool, but was there anything like one thing that like one day you're like, I'm going to get a
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breast augmentation or me and my friends love to go to Vegas and like I'm always wearing these like cute little outfits and they I just my shirts like with cups and stuff would
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literally be like off my body like it would like fit my rib cage but then like any like bralette or corsair or anything like it's just like 2 in away and so I was like I just want boobs.
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Yeah.
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You know, and it's like womanly. I have like kids. I'm a mom. I just like wanted to feel just like a little more confident and I had always seen like
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boobs and I just like that look and I always wanted them. They just never came for me.
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That's why I'm here. I mean like it's awesome. It's it's a great procedure. I I love it. It's actually what I'm most passionate about is breast augmentation and um I mean I I'm passionate about all
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plastic surgery, but that's if you had to like narrow down to one favorite procedure is that one because it makes such a big difference for relatively kind of like smaller surgery,
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low down time. I mean, all the other ones are are important, too, but that one just is like a big impact, you know, and makes people really happy.
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Think you can like like change about yourself like you can't just make your boobs magically grow,
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right? You get pregnant. That's about it. And Yeah. And then they don't stick and then you're just sad that they're not there anymore.
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Exactly. And so afterwards, like I mean this is a big deal. You went through you had your wisdom teeth removed and then you decided to get plastic surgery. Like was it what you expected?
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I feel like I watched a lot of videos.
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Like I'm a researcher. I'm I'm on YouTube. I'm watching people's journeys.
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I would like watch your videos too of like even just the procedure cuz a couple years ago you posted like a lot a lot. Like in the day you're like we're
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using X for all on this patient. Like I feel like I knew all the steps like the funnel names. I knew everything and I was so excited. So I feel like the
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procedure going into it and then afterwards I felt really confident that like everything was going to be like okay and it was. It was the week of Thanksgiving. And I like went to Thanksgiving with my family that week.
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Like my kids were there and you just you make things like work and I feel like it was easy. I do hair. I took two weeks off just cuz I couldn't lift my arms up.
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But and it was and then I was back at it and everything was fine and it was exciting when you can lift your kids again at 6 weeks. But there's a lot of
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things you can do as a mom to still like fill that like void of like not picking them up cuz it seems like the end of the world. So, I feel like those were the
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things I was really worried about. And other than that, I was like, I don't even care.
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What kind of tips would you give moms um who are thinking about getting this procedure done that that made it easier for you?
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I think a lot of people too generally have help at their house um or like help for like their parents are close or you
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have a sister that's close or maybe your husband doesn't work nights. So, I had to get like a babysitter every single night for 6 weeks or I had friends that
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would come over to help put my kid in his crib just because I couldn't. Other than that, I mean, you just like ask people to take shifts. Like, you can sit
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on the floor with them. There's step stools that you can get. I waited until my littlest was I believe he was a year, so he's
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walking. He doesn't like need to be picked up. We just like stayed home. We did like silly little crafts like cuz it's not like you're like immobile. you
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can be like getting up and walking around, sitting down with them, like getting your blood flowing. It's not like you're bedridden for 6 weeks. So, I feel like a lot of people think it's
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like I want to just like sit there and that's not the case. So, it was still I I feel like easy. Like, now looking back
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on it, I was so stressed that that was going to be the hardest part and it really wasn't.
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And did you ever get one of those like Tush Baby things or like a little belt to hold them or anything? I don't have the Tushb because I had had my tummy tuck last year, but I got one that's
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like the strap and then they sit in it and yeah, like that's helpful and easy and especially if they're like little and stuff and they're not like kicking
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you or whatever, it's just like so helpful. I even like using it now.
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So, we got you hooked after the breast augmentation. Yep.
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And then I love it.
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And then um so obviously we had some other surgeries and so what were some other things that you were concerned about? Even after my first baby, my skin literally looked like that. Yeah.
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Um I had a hernia and the hernia was hurting.
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So let's talk about a hernia. So a lot of times and this is very common um with any pregnancy sometimes you get a hernia at the belly button. It's called an
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umbilical hernia and you you know the difference because your in is now gone and you have like an audi and then sometimes you put your finger there and it feels like a little bubble and that's
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that's a hernia and generally you want to get that fixed and see a doctor about that. a plastic surgeon can remove that,
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can fix that with a tummy tucks, which is what we did.
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I had had a client who came in and she had a hernia like that and it had ruptured and so she had to go to the hospital and get it done and it was like sliced up her stomach and she was like,
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"If it's starting to feel painful and you're already have thinking about it, I would just go talk to your plastic surgeon before it gets bad." and it was
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something that I had always really wanted, but then having that added almost like now it's like a medical necessity really pushed me to go be like I need to do it.
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But that's a good warning. A lot of these things can they can get stuck and then it becomes a medical emergency and then you're subject to like a general surgeon at the hospital at like midnight
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and like who knows what you're going to get at that point.
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Yeah. And then I I mean that's a big area for you to have a scar if they just like go up that way. And I knew I needed
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my abs repaired because ever since my first kid, I couldn't really do planks.
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Like I was having that like bubbling still like the vein.
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You would do a plank. And how like what did you notice when you when when that happened?
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So when you look down, you'll see like it's almost the same doming or like coning that you get when you're pregnant if you sit up like weird. So it it's
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like the tissue right in between your abs like is like protruding out.
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Okay. and it hurts like it cuz it's not tissue that's supposed to be doing like a plank or abs or anything like that.
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So, it's just like over like using it and I almost feel like you can do a lot of exercises like people say you can mesh it back together. I did every
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single ab rehab course four times you guys. I bought every single one with every kid. I was like maybe this is the time these abs are going to come back
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together. Like I was so like you do these breathing treatments and like you like put it in and some people it works great and they get a six-pack afterwards and I could not get that.
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So how is it now?
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It's literally the best I can do. Um so I'm a year out of my tummy tuck. I can do all the planks in all my classes. I can do everything. Lifting my stroller into the car doesn't hurt my lower back.
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I do hair now. I'm not like having back pain all of the time because my core is also working when I'm standing at work.
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lower back. I feel like I was going to the chiropractor three I used to have to go three times a week. Like my back was hurting all of the time. My shoulders like cuz there was no core.
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Yeah. Afterwards, you didn't have that issue.
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No, I'm I feel so much better. I feel like not like I don't feel like I have like a chronic illness. Like I used to go to the doctor all the time cuz I was like something has to be wrong.
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There's no reason I should be in this much pain. I'm 28 years old. Like I'm so uncomfortable. Everything hurts. I exercise. I sauna. I'm healthy. I take
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my vitamins. like my blood panels look great, everything's looking fine. Why am I like crying every night? Because I'm in so much pain. So, I mean, it just
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like really changed my life because now I can keep up with three boys. Like, three boys is a lot.
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And so, now I just feel so much like healthier because your core is so I just didn't realize how much of the work it actually does.
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It's funny because uh a lot of people don't realize that about tummy tucks.
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They think that a tummy tuck is just to get rid of the extra skin. I've had people come back and I've been so surprised. That surprises me. I didn't know that was that dramatic for you of
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an improvement. And that's that's awesome cuz that's that's really important for just life, quality of life. And you know, cuz a lot of people look at you like, "Oh, she doesn't really need a tummy. She just has a
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little bit of loose skin and this is just fix the belly button." But we we did the stuff on the inside. I've actually had people who with urinary incontinence when I do that, it fixes
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that, too. And um improve sexual satisfaction and like all kinds of really positive things that is beyond just the like the aesthetic appearance, which is cool.
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100%. Like everything's stronger. I mean, yeah. It used to be like, you know, like after some kids, people are like, "Oh, like I pee when I sneeze."
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Like I don't have anything like that anymore. Like no.
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Oh, did you have like sometimes it would happen? Yeah. Like you just you feel like there's no muscles in anywhere and you're just like
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this is And so now I just feel like a regular 28-year-old again.
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Awesome. So those are the two main things for you. Um and you feel like you've got your body back with those things or anything else that that
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I feel so good. Like I always like can I love at first when the lowrise trend was starting I was like I am never wearing a
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lowrise thing because that like my skin would literally hang over my denim because it was so loose. And so now I feel like I can wear all the Y2K
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fashion. Like I literally just am wearing I feel like my nanny always makes fun of me. She's like if I'm wearing a sweater she's like this is the
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most clothes I ever see. And I'm like I have boobs and a tiny tummy now. So like I'm just always in I feel like cute young clothes and I feel like so good
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about myself and I feel like that translates a lot into like now I feel a lot more confident. I feel like I'm a better mom, better wife
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because I'm just not like internalizing things so much. Like mentally I just feel a lot better.
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You seem to have a very positive and growth mindset and you seem to recover really fast. Different strokes for different folks. Do do you have any like tips that that that you think helped you
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because these are big surgeries breast semi big but then like the the tummy tuck is that's a big deal with hernia repair and all the plecation. Do you have any pointers for people or tips
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that you want to share that you think helped? I think it's getting to a mindset that like you understand that you getting this like isn't a vain thing
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because I think you can be really grateful for the body that gave you three kids because I know that you know not everyone's able to have kids and it
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seems like maybe something frivolous to complain that like I didn't like how my body looked after having kids and I think it's okay to give yourself grace
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and be really grateful that your body was able to do those things and give yourself that but also realizing that this body is going to serve me. I'm only
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28. Hopefully like at least 60 more years. And so I'd like to be in a good place that I feel good and I mean that
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was 10 years of my life like being not even 10 years like seven years of my life being pregnant and having kids and it did a number on me and I don't want
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to be in pain the rest of my life. So just because someone is telling you that you don't need it just because they don't think that you need it, you know
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in your gut what's best for you and if you're thinking about it over and over,
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you're totally able to do those things for yourself. I think a lot of people as soon as they become a mom, like a lot of my mom friends like won't even go on
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date nights or stuff. Like it's okay to take care of yourself because when you're good, like everything is so much better. Like they don't go on date nights. Why don't
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they go on date nights? you just like see some moms and they just are scared to leave their kids with a sitter and so like then that just turns into like they
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won't like if if that's like a normal issue then like it stems so far on like
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I feel like almost moms like push each other into this other like self-sacrificial role and it's okay to get out of that and it doesn't make you
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selfish like even when I got the lipo done the other day someone's like I can't believe you would choose chin lipo over holding your kid and I'm like we're
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sitting sitting on the couch. He has a bowl of treats and we're watching the Olympics and he's sleeping in my bed. I think everything's fine if you take two weeks for yourself. You know,
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I have four kids and I I love my kids,
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but they're going to grow up. They're going to be their own people someday.
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And you can't completely like I'm very passionate about them and I take care of them, but you can't just neglect yourself and completely, you know, it's not like you're you're out in the
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wilderness and trying to survive. You know, they're going to be okay% be okay.
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And I also will say girls are secret haters. So, if one of your friends is telling you not to do it, she doesn't want you to be hotter than her. I feel like so true.
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I don't understand that. Uh, obviously, but if you look statistically, 90%
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plastic surgery patients are women and 10% men. Some men do get it. I think men don't ever really talk about it and they definitely don't comment on other people, but like why why does that
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happen with with women and and plastic surgery and you know, why is it so taboo or why why do people shame other women for doing that?
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It's so hard because I don't have that mindset. So, I'm always trying to put myself like in that person's thing because it's like if it's going to make you feel better, amazing. I don't know
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if it comes from a place where sometimes people are like, I want to make you feel good about yourself, so I'm just going to be so adamant that you don't need it.
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But I feel like there is the other side of like troll comments where they're so mean, like, why would you do this? It's like you can't win. Like the Kardashians
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don't tell you what they get and you're mad, but then people do tell you what they get done and then you're mad because it's still creating an unrealistic. I'm like, wouldn't you
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rather me tell you I got light bulb on my waist and that's how it looks like this? Like, no matter how many crunches you do, it's not going to look like this because I got it sucked out. Like,
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yeah. I'm a big believer in transparency. I I feel like if you're a celebrity, you owe it a little bit more to people to be honest with what you do with your body because they're looking up to you as a role model. Um, if you're
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a normal person, then you obviously don't. That's your choice. That's just my personal opinion. But, um, you've been really transparent about it and you share you share stuff publicly and and
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you mentioned me. Thank you. in terms of like hey you know day one of that tummy talk you're like I'm I am really struggling is there was there any
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surprises that you had any kind of like recovery tip that helped you like uh like with pain or with like getting out of bed?
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I feel like tummy tuck is the most like intense so you notice like a big difference from the things you do for that. So like I was really on top of the CBD and the arnica and my bruising
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actually went like never even turns like blural like it it went down really quickly. the swelling. Like people would say like, "Oh my gosh, you're only 2
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weeks out. Like you don't look that swollen." I was doing all of those things. Recovery tip, I did after my tummy tuck go to like a recovery center
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for two nights. And honestly, that was so helpful. Like have a nurse there.
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They bring you food. My husband would come check in on me. But like about the kids, right?
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No, it was so it was so nice cuz it's you're kind of in the trenches the two those two days. Like I'm not going to lie to you. I'm not going to say it's like the easiest thing ever. like put some shows you're really excited about.
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Have like good nutrition like bone broth and stuff like that is what I had because you know your stomach is like brand. Did you make it yourself?
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I like the bare bones. We were talking about this and it's actually so good.
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The chicken flavor. I love it. They actually had it. So the first time I had it was at the recovery center and I messaged the girl who owned it. I said, "What is this brand?" And she's like,
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"Oh my gosh, that's funny." So, I loved um having that. And then I made a little snack pack like right next to my bed of like a bunch of protein bars and stuff
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like that um because I was trying to eat like really healthy things and like I didn't want to go downstairs. Once I got upstairs at my house, I was stuck there.
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Just know after the drain comes out, it feels so much better and you feel like this like sense of relief. It's not even that it's like super uncomfortable, but there's something about the second that
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it's out. It feels like your body's not trying to reject it anymore. It's just like free.
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Like it it felt so much better. Um, and so that's only what like three or four days I had mine in. And so it was I mean those first couple days taking a shower,
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maybe get someone to help you in the shower because you're just a like I get lightheaded really easily.
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And that's important always first night after any surgery, make sure someone's with you. Every time you stand up cuz you can get lightheaded, fall over, hit your head. That's happened numerous times. Someone doesn't want to bother
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somebody who's watching them. They get up and they fall over and hit their head on the toilet. I'm like, "Oh, now we got to go get a head CT, you That's why I felt like having that
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recovery center was like nice cuz my husband wasn't trying to take care of like four people. It was like you're just able to focus on yourself was so clean. They had like the lift up beds.
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So then also too I got those so it was so nice. But also at your house having either like you can use your kids recliner chair like you just chill in
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that or I got those like Costco like squishy triangle pillows. So I just had those like in my bed to like sit up and
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stuff. But again, like that was like two weeks I was really like in bed. And then really follow the protocol. Like they're not telling you to take these vitamins
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like just because they want to sell you something. Like I still use them all because they actually work comparatively to other stuff that I've used and I feel like I've tried a lot of
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supplements cuz I have friends who are very into like selling supplements or like stuff like that.
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Yeah. Well, thanks for that. We're not here to plug the products, but um no like I use all the stuff myself and I'm like really particular about it and like we've traced all the ingredients and do
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we do independent testing of like lead and all the stuff cuz like you see the stuff coming out about like Dave's killer bread and like have you heard about that? Like glycophosphate is in there and really hot
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which is just sad because it's like supposed to be like it. I know. Like I bought it in 2015 apparently and some of the bread
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versions have higher than we expected like some really high levels like the white Dave's killer bread. The white one is really high. But um such a bummer. I know.
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Cuz you just like can't trust anything that you see almost on labels anymore.
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Yeah. So even even our products like we'll retest them and like just make sure you know nothing changed, you know.
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So I mean overall, you know, you we did a couple touch-up things. We did the neck liposuction. We did a tiny little scar revision. Your closure was tight,
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so it's probably why you got a little bit extra thick there. Um but I mean I you look fantastic. I mean you're incredible. Well, you're coming here,
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you know, a couple weeks after your surgery and um you know, you you seem to just bounce right back and but how do you feel about everything, you know, overall?
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I feel great. I'm so happy that I did everything. Um I'm really happy with the just even like the stuff we did a couple weeks ago and it just feels like it was like the icing on the cake of
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everything. Like I feel like now I don't foresee needing anything else.
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Like I just feel like the best version of myself. I'm so happy. I'm just like maintaining everything now. And so I'm
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just yeah, I'm really really happy. Like I can't explain that enough because people still message me all the time and they're like, "Are you like happy with your results?" And I'm like, "Yes." Like
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I feel like that's all I'm ever like posting and saying. But it's not just something that's like a story. Like I genuinely if you like cuz I do hair, all
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my clients are like, "You just seem like so much happier and stronger and like in a better mood." And I feel like I just like am overall very very happy.
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Yeah. You see, I I feel like you're a happy person and you're really positive and um but uh I'm I'm really thankful for you for trusting me and and for
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coming to us and and following the protocol and doing everything and um you've exceeded our expectations in terms of results. I mean, you have like amazing results. I think a lot of that
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has to do with you. So, thank you. You still do a couple other things like injectables, which I think we're going to do today. Is that something new for you or have you always kind of done this or?
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Um, I started getting Botox actually when I was like 21 because I'm very expressive and I like used to do tanning beds. So, I feel like I got wrinkles.
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Wait, where did you grow up to have tanning beds? Oh, Arizona. We were all psychotic.
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Everyone's fighting about who can be the tannist. So, you're like double dipping tanning bed and then laying out with baby oil is psychotic. So, like my face I feel like I was just getting wrinkles
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younger. So, I got it. But, I started noticing a couple years ago that it wasn't sticking anymore. And so when you kept posting about Daxi, I was interested and
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I have really liked doing that cuz I feel like it actually lasts now for me.
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Um I've done I do a little bit of lip filler. I haven't gotten it done in like 3 years though. Like I feel like it sticks now. Looks good.
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Um and then I just try to do you know all my like actively am detoxing like the Juna detox drops. The after vitamins about the Juna detox drops.
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Taylor's one of my best friends.
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That's right. Okay. I was like how did she know about that? That's great. Her company is really good. She has really good stuff. She's She's taught me a thing or two, but her detox drops are really good.
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Yeah, I like those. I like their new metabolism boosting gummies, too. Okay.
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Yeah, I feel like I've been able to even like just a little bit do less of my GLP1, too, cuz I feel like it just like like heats up my body almost. It's like
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So, just those mixed with like trying to keep all my like healthy stuff. I don't know. Just I feel like I live a healthy lifestyle now and I'm able to like now teach that to my kids. So,
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that's awesome. Where can people learn more about you or or find you?
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Um, I'm on Instagram. I do Tik Tok if you want more aesthetic. Jill Chal on Instagram and then on Tik Tok I'm
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Jillian Chal. I do do hair and I have a brand so I feel like I do a lot outside. So I'm Jill does Hair with three L's.
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Everything else was taken and then um love it.
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And then Playday HQ and that's my like little clothing brand side kind of fun hustle. So awesome. Well tell us tell us a little about that the clothing brand. Me and my
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best friend Shelby started it together and we I feel like live a very fun lifestyle. Like we're always I mean we take our kids to do like everything with
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us. We're always doing fun stuff and we were always just like let's have a play date. And then we started doing a lot of like adult things too. Like we always do
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couples trips and fun nights out and like we're throwing a disco party for our birthday. We're having a tattoo artist like come like that. And so we
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just always call it a play date. So, we wanted it to be like more an adult kind of like fun whatever line kind of just like we could drop things here and there
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when we felt like it and when we felt inspired. So, we just kind of channeled that into that. Awesome. Yeah,
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that's wonderful. Well, Joe, thanks so much again and uh thanks for being on the podcast and sharing your personal experience. It's really it's eye opening to me and and I'm really grateful to
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that you've you've come to me and that you shared your story with us and we're we're very thankful. Oh, thank you. You're the best. Thank you.

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